How Graham got his receptionist back, without hiring one
Graham is a driving instructor who hates the phone. When his assistant left, calls went to voicemail. Now Jodie answers them all.
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Graham
Before, I used to have a lady called Lisa, so I've renamed Jodie to Lisa. She was 100% invaluable to me. She answered all my calls, all my messaging. I go out, teach people to drive, and I actually hate talking on the phone. She was then made redundant, which meant I'd got to talk to people on my phone.
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Graham
So I just ended up forwarding all my calls to voicemail: send me a text or a WhatsApp message and we'll get it done. And that actually worked. I could actually get people in my diary without talking to them in the first place. Then I was just scrolling Facebook and I saw one of the case studies, and now all my calls are answered. I've got my WhatsApp doing the same thing as well. So even though it's AI, I've now got a personalised service rather than just a voicemail and 'send a message'.
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Max Jodie
Amazing. Before Jodie, was there a time where you ever did try and take the calls, or was your diary booked?
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Graham
Yeah, and if I'm honest, I didn't really convert many, because I don't like talking on the phone. If I take a call, it's normally a sales call, and I know what they're doing on the end of the phone. They're going, 'I don't want to talk to him.' And I thought that we can convert a different way.
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Max Jodie
Okay, so you went from that to the voicemail and text system, and then you discovered Jodie. When you discovered Jodie, how did it change your business and how you operated?
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Graham
Once we got Jodie in, it means it's like having somebody real to answer my phone, rather than people getting a voicemail message saying, can you do this now, can you do that? I don't get that many phone calls, but I do get quite a few WhatsApps, which is why that side of it is quite important. It filters out people who just want to find out prices and availability. Jodie's answered all of them.
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Max Jodie
Great. On a given day with Jodie, at what point would you take the Jodie messages and put people in?
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Graham
I've put half an hour between all my lessons, so I've got 11.30 to 1 today. So if Jodie kicks in between 11 and 1, the messages will just sit there, and then at one o'clock I can start replying and deciding who gets what.
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Max Jodie
Fantastic, that sounds great. So have you set up Jodie so that she picks up if you don't answer within a certain number of rings? Or how does that work?
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Graham
I just forward all my calls to Jodie. My family know to WhatsApp me, don't call me.
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Max Jodie
Okay, so it sounds like Jodie's really made it so you can focus on your high success rate and your clients.
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Graham
Yeah. If I'm getting a referral, which means it's come from another pupil, they come through on my personal number anyway. But if it comes through Jodie, it's been a cold call, and I can filter it that way.
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Max Jodie
Okay, so what surprised you most about using Jodie? Is there anything that you weren't expecting, in how it would change how your weeks go?
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Graham
I would say the main reason that I chose Jodie was how natural the voice sounded compared to other AIs. There's a little bit of a pause, but not as much of a pause as a lot of the others.
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Max Jodie
Yeah, amazing. So the types of calls that Jodie receives, are they mainly new enquiries, or do you also get some spam calls?
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Graham
I do get spam calls. She filters them out for me.
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Max Jodie
Okay, so she filters the spam. And with most of the new calls that come in, how do those calls typically go, and how does Jodie handle them?
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Graham
Jodie handles them really well, because if they ask for prices, she's read from the website what the prices are. I changed the prices and Jodie seemed to pick that change up quite quickly. I don't need to go changing two things, I only change one thing and it seems to be picked up. So lesson prices and availability. Jodie knows my availability: I run about an eight to 10 week waiting list.
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Max Jodie
Oh, wow. Okay, so you've told her that as well. Cool. It sounds like she's right at home and she's having a good time. That's fantastic.
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Graham
It meant that I could go back to having a real person answer my calls. I'd always wanted one, it's finding the right one. I think the ad that I saw was a plumber, and I thought, let's have a look. I'm not somebody who waits for anything, so: click, trial, let's trial it. We ran the trial the same day, and I think we ended up subscribing straight away.
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Max Jodie
Fantastic. To summarise, what would you say Jodie's top-level impact has been on your business? Be it revenue, time saved, or just anything that we can lead the case study with.
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Graham
Mainly it's the time saved on the cold calls that just want the price.
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Max Jodie
And if you had to estimate how much time Jodie's been saving you, what would you say?
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Graham
I'd say maybe 15 to 20 minutes a day. That's a third of a lesson, so I could equate that to 20 quid.
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Max Jodie
Okay, that's fantastic. And if you were to say something to people who have maybe seen a bit about Jodie, and maybe they've had some doubts, what would you say to them?
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Graham
Just do what I did: take the trial. If it doesn't work, we don't use it. But it will work, so we use it.
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Max Jodie
Yeah, fantastic. And if you had to quickly summarise, in one sentence before Jodie and in one sentence after Jodie, what would you say?
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Graham
I've not got before and after. I've got before, when I had somebody, and in the middle, when I didn't have anybody, and I've now got Jodie. So I'm going back to when I was really happy, just around Covid.
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Max Jodie
Amazing. That's fantastic, and that makes sense. That's exactly why we built Jodie. And she's on evenings and weekends, and she never takes a holiday.
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Graham
My calls on my phone go 24-7 to Jodie.
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Max Jodie
Amazing. So has it affected after hours, or weekends or holidays? Because I think as business owners, same as me, we're always on. How has it affected things outside of your day-to-day lessons where you schedule stuff in?
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Graham
My missus normally stares at me when the phone buzzes, especially after seven o'clock at night or over the weekend. The phone will go, we leave it, and I go, 'It's getting sorted, don't worry about it.'
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Max Jodie
So before, it was an issue: if a call came in, you didn't know whether to answer or not.
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Graham
Yeah. It could be there's a message and she'd go, 'Don't reply to it now,' but I've got to reply to it now, or else I will lose that customer.
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Max Jodie
So your missus likes Jodie?
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Graham
Yes.
Graham
Driving instructor, Get Driving Today
- Industry
- Driving school
- Location
- Bolton, Bury and Radcliffe
- Team
- Solo instructor
- Website
- getdrivingtoday.co.uk
- saved every day
- 15-20 min
- a day back, a third of a lesson
- £20
- calls go to Jodie
- 24/7
The short version
- The problem
Graham lost his assistant and sent every call to voicemail.
- The fix
Jodie now answers every call and WhatsApp message.
- The result
He saves 15-20 minutes a day, and his evenings are quiet.
Before Jodie
What was going wrong
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His assistant left, so calls went to voicemail
Graham used to have an assistant called Lisa. She answered all his calls. Then she was made redundant.
Graham teaches all day, and he does not like the phone. So every call went to voicemail.
I go out, teach people to drive, and I actually hate talking on the phone.
Graham Driving instructor, Get Driving Today
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Voicemail worked, but it was not great
His voicemail asked people to text him instead. It filled his diary, but callers never got a real answer.
Then he saw a Jodie advert on Facebook. He started a trial that day.
We ran the trial the same day and I think we ended up subscribing straight away.
Graham Driving instructor, Get Driving Today
With Jodie
What changed for Graham
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Every caller gets a real answer
All his calls now go to Jodie. He even renamed her Lisa.
Most callers want prices and dates. Jodie handles both.
- She reads his prices from his website
- She knows his 8-10 week waiting list
- She filters out spam calls
- She answers WhatsApp messages too
Once we got Jodie in, it's like having somebody real now to answer my phone.
Graham Driving instructor, Get Driving Today
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Messages wait for a break between lessons
Graham leaves half an hour between lessons. Messages wait until then.
Then he reads them and books people in.
The messages will just sit there, and at one o'clock I can start replying.
Graham Driving instructor, Get Driving Today -
Quiet evenings and weekends
His wife used to glare when the phone buzzed after 7pm. Now he can leave it.
Jodie has it covered.
My calls on my phone are 24/7 to Jodie.
Graham Driving instructor, Get Driving Today
Before and after, at a glance
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Callers got voicemail
Callers get a real chat
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Price questions broke up lessons
Jodie answers them
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Phone buzzing after 7pm
Replies wait for a gap
Jodie features in this story
I've now got Jodie. So I'm going back to when I was really happy.
Graham Driving instructor, Get Driving Today Quick-fire questions
- Why Jodie and not another AI?
- How natural the voice sounded compared to other AIs.
- Does she deal with spam calls?
- She filters them out for me.
- Any advice for someone unsure?
- Just do what I did and take the trial. If it doesn't work, we don't use it. But it will work.
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